Showing posts with label Bush-Cheney Administration. Show all posts
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Wednesday, May 13, 2009

Pres. Obama Speaks About the Delay of Release of Photos

Pres. Obama talked about the release of the photos, just before he left for Phoenix.

Notice one line of what he said. I will highlight it.. I think it is very important.

[*] OBAMA: Now, let me also say a few words about an issue that I know you asked Robert Gibbs about quite a bit today, and that’s my decision to argue against the release of additional detainee photos.

Understand these photos are associated with closed investigations of the alleged abuse of detainees in our ongoing war effort. And I want to emphasize that these photos that were requested in this case are not particularly sensational, especially when compared to the painful images that we remember from Abu Ghraib. But they do represent conduct that did not conform with the Army Manual; that’s precisely why they were investigated and, I might add, investigated long before I took office. And, where appropriate, sanctions have been applied.

In other words, this is not a situation in which the Pentagon has concealed or sought to justify inappropriate action. Rather, it has gone through the appropriate and regular processes. And the individuals who were involved have been identified, and appropriate actions have been taken.

It’s therefore my belief that the publication of these photos would not add any additional benefit to our understanding of what was carried out in the past by a small number of individuals. In fact, the most direct consequence of releasing them, I believe, would be to further inflame anti-American opinion and to put our troops in greater danger.

Moreover, I fear the publication of these photos may only have a chilling effect on future investigations of detainee abuse.

And, obviously, the thing that is most important in my mind is making sure that we are abiding by the Army Manual and that we are swiftly investigating any -- any instances in which individuals have not acted appropriately and that they are appropriately sanctioned. That’s my aim, and I do not believe that the release of these photos at this time would further that goal.

Now, let me be clear: I am concerned about how the release of these photos would be -- would impact on the safety of our troops. I have made it very clear to all who are within the chain of command, however, of the United States Armed Forces that the abuse of detainees in our custody is prohibited and will not be tolerated.

I have repeated that since I’ve been in office. Secretary Gates understands that. Admiral Mullen understands that. And that has been communicated across the chain of command.

Any abuse of detainees is unacceptable. It is against our values. It endangers our security. It will not be tolerated.

All right? Thank you very much, everybody


Notice that line I put in bold. This is what he said "future investigations of detainee abuse". I heard that and I went whoa.. that's what I am talking about. He isn't ruling anything out as so many have been thinking.. right there he stated very clearly.

We have to do this. In order to get this country back on track and back on the road to recovery completely we have to have investigations and prosecutions. We have a statement from our President now, saying there was going to be further investigations, so we have to just hold him to it.

Friday, May 1, 2009

Startling Report Details Contractors and Murder of Detainees

The more that is coming out about our National disgrace under the Bush Mis-Administration the worse it gets. There have been rumors of people missing, (at least 32 not accounted for), and killed, (some estimates of 100), and it looks like buried in one of the memos recently released there may have been proof.

I also think it is odd.. in the line I highlighted in italics how they termed it, that "President Obama calls torture". Well so do I, what do they call it?

There are two things I need to reference here to show what I mean. First is an ABC story which is actually a clarification of a story they did earlier. Either they were trying to make things look better and then realized the error of their way, or it was an actual mistake no one will ever know, but the story is now being told as this:

As the secrets about the CIA's interrogation techniques continue to come out, there's new information about the frequency and severity of their use, contradicting an 2007 ABC News report, and a new focus on two private contractors who were apparently directing the brutal sessions that President Obama calls torture.
According to current and former government officials, the CIA's secret waterboarding program was designed and assured to be safe by two well-paid psychologists now working out of an unmarked office building in Spokane, Washington.
Bruce Jessen and Jim Mitchell, former military officers, together founded Mitchell Jessen and Associates.
Both men declined to speak to ABC News citing non-disclosure agreements with the CIA. But sources say Jessen and Mitchell together designed and implemented the CIA's interrogation program.”


These are the two men who were responsible for most of the torture and waterboarding in the CIA, they were contractors, hired by Bush/Cheney and the rest of that bunch for the express purpose of carrying out these atrocious acts.

This, I think is the reason Pres. Obama felt he could state NO CIA employees should be punished for torturing detainees, because he was aware there really wasn't anyone there who had done it, it was all contractors.

These jerks were paid... get this.. $1,000 a day.. that's right ONE THOUSAND BUCKS A DAY, to hurt, to maim, to inflict intense pain, to do things to people that should never be done.

“But it turns out neither Mitchell nor Jessen had any experience in conducting actual interrogations before the CIA hired them.
"They went to two individuals who had no interrogation experience," said Col. Kleinman. "They are not interrogators."
The new documents show the CIA later came to learn that the two psychologists' waterboarding "expertise" was probably "misrepresented" and thus, there was no reason to believe it was "medically safe" or effective. The waterboarding used on al Qaeda detainees was far more intense than the brief sessions used on U.S. military personnel in the training classes.”


So, on top of everything else, not only were they well paid, they didn't even know what they were doing. Had limited training, and evidently loved their job. But they are psychologists, so they have some background in the medical field and to me that makes their crime that much worse.

That's what I am reading from the ABC report.. then we go on to another report, which is left out from theirs. I guess they don't want to upset their readers or viewers and let them actually see what was done in the name of the USA.

So, lets pick up with the “Church Report” named after Vice Admiral Albert T. Church, the former Naval inspector general, who conducted the investigation at the request of Rumsfeld. Yes, can you believe it, Rumsfeld asked him to do it.. guess he thought he would be a loyal soldier and not tell it like it was.

That 360-page report, delivered to Congress in March 2004, said there was “no policy that condoned or authorized either abuse or torture,” which critics of the Bush administration believed was a cover-up.  But the declassified Pentagon documents, coupled with a report issued last week by the Senate Armed Services Committee, tell a different story and lend credence to claims by civil libertarians and critics of former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld that refusal to release a fully classified version of the Church Report several years ago amounted to a cover-up.

“We suspected that these two pages [from the Church Report] related to the deaths of prisoners who were tortured to death was done only to protect the Bush administration from embarrassment and illegal activity, said Amrit Singh, an ACLU attorney and co-author of the book Administration of Torture, in an interview with The Public Record. Singh said the documents demands that former Bush administration officials, and the interrogators, be held accountable for torturing detainees.
“There needs to be an independent investigation,” Singh said.  
According to the declassified Church Report documents, on Dec. 4, 2002, a prisoner died while in U.S. custody in Afghanistan. Six days later, another prisoner died. Two days before the detainees were tortured and died, on Dec. 2, 2002, Rumsfeld authorized “aggressive interrogation techniques,” leading to “interrogation policies and plans approved by senior military and civilian officials [that] conveyed the message that physical pressures and degradation were appropriate treatment for detainees in U.S. military custody,” the Senate Armed Services Committee report said.
Both deaths, the documents say, “share some similarities.”
“In both cases, for example, [the prisoners] were handcuffed to fixed objects above their heads in order to keep them awake,” the documents say. “Additionally, interrogations in both incidents involved the use of physical violence, including kicking, beating, and the use of “compliance blows” which involved striking the [prisoners] legs with the [interrogators] knees. In both cases, blunt force trauma to the legs was implicated in the deaths. In one case, a pulmonary embolism developed as a consequence of the blunt force trauma, and in the other case pre-existing coronary artery disease was complicated by the blunt force trauma.” 
“In both instances, the [detainee] deaths followed interrogation sessions in which unauthorized techniques were allegedly employed, but in both cases, these sessions were followed by further alleged abusive behavior outside of the interrogation booth,” the declassified documents say.
“None of these techniques have ever been approved in Afghanistan,” according to two pages of the declassified Church report. “Of these, three (marked with X) are alleged to have been employed during interrogations. These techniques—sleep deprivation, the use of scenarios designed to convince the detainee that death or severely painful consequences are imminent for him and/or his family, and beating are alleged to have been used in the incidents leading to the two deaths at Bagram in December 2002, which are described at greater length later in this report.”
Moreover, the declassified documents names a private contractor, David Passaro, who conducted at least one interrogation that allegedly led to the death of a prisoner. Under the subhead “Migration of Interrogation Techniques,” the two-pages from the Church Report discusses an investigation undertaken by military officials to determine whether military interrogators or military police were responsible for the brutal interrogations that apparently caused the deaths of the prisoners, which the documents suggest was the case.
Following an investigation one day after a second detainee died, an Army lieutenant “prohibited several interrogation techniques implicated in the detainees’ deaths..”
Specifically, he prohibited the practice of handcuffing as a means of enforcing sleep deprivation, hooding a detainee during questioning, and any form of physical contact used for the purpose of interrogation,” according to the two-pages from the Church Report. “It should be noted that handcuffing as a means of enforcing sleep deprivation was never approved in any interrogation policy; and in any event…constituted the only interrogation guidance in Afghanistan at the time. Although some of the measures were later reversed in the March 2004 interrogation guidance, as described previously, they do not indicate initial action was taken.”
The report goes on to say that a criminal investigation concluded in October 2004 with the recommendation that criminal charges be filed “against 28 soldiers in connection with the deaths.” But the Bush administration officials who authorized and implemented the policies were not held accountable. Indeed, Vice Admiral Church, who conducted the investigation, never bothered to interview then Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, who, according to published documents was responsible for implementing the brutal interrogations, because he did not believe it to be necessary.”


Again, a private contractor was involved in the torture. And what happened to the criminal investigation that was conducted? Why were soldiers charged? If it was contractors doing the torturing and the killing, why are we putting our soldiers in prison and why are our soldiers being investigated?

I hope there is more of an investigation done. We need answers and we need to make sure that we don't drop the ball on this. We have all concentrated on torture, and yes we can't forget that, but we also need to remember that MURDER was committed. So, add to those charges against the Bush Mis-Administration.

For another perspective to this here is a link to another post about this same subject from Americablog.

Sunday, April 12, 2009

Hey Congress.. WAKE UP AND DO YOUR DAMN JOB!!!

Hey Congress.. Wake Up and do your damn job. That's what I think Pres. Obama is trying to say without saying it.

Yeah, I could be wrong, and I could be alone in my thinking. But I believe there are a few of you out there who see the things that are happening and wonder what is the world is he doing and why is he doing it.

Just last week there was this:

The Obama administration said Friday that it would appeal a district court ruling that granted some military prisoners in Afghanistan the right to file lawsuits seeking their release. The decision signaled that the administration was not backing down in its effort to maintain the power to imprison terrorism suspects for extended periods without judicial oversight. In a court filing, the Justice Department also asked District Judge John D. Bates not to proceed with the habeas-corpus cases of three detainees at Bagram Air Base outside Kabul, Afghanistan.
Tina Foster, the executive director of the International Justice Network, which is representing the detainees, condemned the decision in a statement. “Though he has made many promises regarding the need for our country to rejoin the world community of nations, by filing this appeal,President Obama has taken on the defense of one of the Bush administration’s unlawful policies founded on nothing more than the idea that might makes right,” she said.


But do you remember when he said this:

In September 2006, Obama said on the Senate floor that “restricting somebody’s right to challenge their imprisonment indefinitely is not going to make us safer. In fact, recent evidence shows it is probably making us less safe.”

See, he is trying to tell us something I think. He also did this before. He said he wasn't going to use the Executive Orders and Signing Statements like Bush did. And he hasn't so far. Well, he doesn't want to. He is waiting on Congress to step up and do their damn job.

If they would pass a law, stating these people had rights, just like everyone else does, and overturn the orders Bush put in place, Pres. Obama could then sign it and it would be taken care of. He would follow the law.

As, FDR said.. “Force me to do what I said.” That's what he is asking us to do. That's what Pres. Obama is asking Congress to do.
As a commenter at another blog I go to said so very well,

“ It's time for them to reign in the executive in such a way that it becomes legal precedent and not expect Obama to do it for them by executive order alone. The problem is they are content to lament this in news conferences and press shows while not seriously considering action because, once again, they don't know how to make the argument against what's being done. It's once again the "We Don't Have The Votes/There Are More Important Issues Right Now/Is That My Phone Ringing?/Blah Blah Blah" excuse for why they don't have the balls to make it happen. “


That's what I mean. I think that is what he is saying, but he can't come out and tell them to do their job, it is up to them and us. We have to hold them and him to it.
It is the same with holding the Bush Administration accountable for the crimes they committed, it really isn't up to Pres. Obama to accuse or charge them with crimes. That is not for the Executive branch of the Government. That should come under the Judicial or the Legislative also. Again it goes back to Congress or the Attorney General to get the process started.

Once it is started, then if needed Pres. Obama might weigh in, but he is really out of any criminal proceedings in the Government.

Maybe I am wrong, maybe I am living in a dream world and just buying into all of this, but this is what I am thinking.

After the horrors of the last 8 years, I want to believe again. I want to think we have someone different and good in the White House and I refuse to give up this soon. So, I for one am not going to write him off yet. I am going to continue to believe and hope and look for the change I worked for, called for, knocked on doors for and finally voted for.

Thursday, February 19, 2009

Take Action: Support a Truth & Reconciliation Commission

Here is your chance to support Sen. Leahy and his progress toward investigating Bush and Co. This can be the first step towards getting at least something done in the way of at least learning if there is enough to charge them with crimes.

If there is enough to charge them, they can either do it here or move it to the UN and take it to the World Court. But at least it is a step forward. So please sign the petition and lets move it forward.

Support Sen. Patrick Leahy and his Truth & Reconciliation Commission.

Full Petition Text:
I hereby join Senator Patrick Leahy's call for the establishment of a truth and reconciliation commission, to investigate the Bush-Cheney Administration's constitutional abuses so we make sure they never happen again. These abuses may include the use of torture, warrantless wiretapping, extraordinary rendition, and executive override of laws.

A truth and reconciliation commission should be tasked with seeking answers so that we can develop a shared understanding of the failures of the recent past. Rather than vengeance, we need a fair-minded pursuit of what actually happened. The best way to move forward is getting to the truth and finding out what happened -- so we can make sure it does not happen again.


Take Action: Support a Truth & Reconciliation Commission

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