Monday, January 12, 2009

Morning Joke lies about torture

I have said I watch Morning Joke, you know, the guy who used to be a congressman who found a dead girl in his office that no one can explain. Well, this morning while I was watching, Chrystia Freeland, Deputy Editor of Financial Times and the Joke got into a discussion on torture. If you can call it a discussion. The Joke doesn't discuss, he shouts, he insults, he interrupts, he is rude, and he is obnoxious. Oh, and he lies.

Today was no exception. Not surprisingly, MSNBC does not have this on the web site. But, never fear, YouTube had it, Think Progress has it, FireDogLake has it is recorded for prosterity. Now, I have

So, I would like to share it with you. But first let me remind you of some facts about the man they call KSM. From Jane Mayer's book The Dark Side

While Tenet continued to assure the White House that Mohammed's interrogation in particular had been a gold mine of invaluable intelligence, a few officers began to question the reliability of his coerced confessions. Some also feared that the torturous methods used by the Agency would undermine eventual efforts to convict him in any legitimate court. Mohammed claimed responsibility for so many crimes that his testimony began to seem inherently dubious. In addition to confessing to the [Daniel] Pearl murder, he said that he had hatched plans to assassinate President Clinton, President Carter, and Pope John Paul II. CIA cables carrying Mohammed's interrogation transcirpts back to Washington with the warning that "the detainee has been known to withhold information or deliberately mislead."

After Mohammed had been interrogated for some time, a top Agency official asked for a few choice revelations from his confession that he could share with officers from an allied foreign intelligence agency. To his surprise, he was told by top CIA officials that there really was noting "solid" enough to pass on. Although few outside of the CIA knew it, Mohammed had recanted substantial portions of his initial confessions.

Mohammed brazenly boasted later about his ability to mislead the United States. He claimed that false information he fabricated caused the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to issue urgent terrorist threat alerts on several occasions, for no real reason. He just wanted the interrogators to stop, he said, so he told them whatever they wanted to hear.

And from David Rose in Vanity Fair

K.S.M. was certainly knowledgeable. It would be surprising if he gave up nothing of value. But according to a former senior C.I.A. official, who read all the interrogation reports on K.S.M., “90 percent of it was total fucking bullshit.” A former Pentagon analyst adds: “K.S.M. produced no actionable intelligence. He was trying to tell us how stupid we were.”

Now, watch the video and listen to Morning Joke and his lies and how he tries to belittle Chrystia Freeland. See what you think. There are 3 parts to this.

This man needs to be off TeeVee.

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